A few days ago Dr Marco Manca joined an online informal seminar/conversation hosted by the Edgeryders about the topic of meaningful human control of autonomous systems , largely inspired by Dr Manca's contribution to the activities of NATO STO HFM-330 but touching on the wider issues of how to understand current machine learning and the potentials and pitfalls of its deployment across most sectors of human enterprise. We believe this might be of interest to some, and so we are pleased to share hereby a recording of the meeting, and we invite you to join the conversation online hosted by the Edgeryders